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RE: Poll: Butter (Kerrygold brand) vs. Coconut oil. What's safer?

  
 

Hi Chef,

You said : increasing the omega 3 fatty acids and reducing the 6s. I have studies somewhere on my old site showing that omega 3 fatty acids are key to histamine lowering diamine oxidase enzyme production, and also prostaglandin d2 (which potentiates the actions f histamine in the body) can be lowered with omega 3

Don't you mean that omega 6 fatty acids are key to histamine lowering DAO enzyme ?

The diamine oxidase enzyme is the enzyme which breaks down the histamine. Therefore people who have histamine intolerance need to focus on the production of DAO enzyme by increasing their intake of vitamin B, C, zinc, magnesium and manganese and of course eating your delicious recipes low in histamine.

Anyway, good luck everyone, you are all doing great !!!



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I've found that more than just avoiding high histamine foods, adding anti inflammatory foods has helped the most. I sometimes have issued with sunflower seeds. It's supposedly not a histamine thing, maybe tyramine. In any case, I eat them once every 10 days or so, in small amounts, because they're good for me. Sugar is a mast cell degranulator, making them release histamine. ALmost everyone I know has an issue with sugar...

Almonds are usually fine. Pistachio sometimes too. I can now eat higher histamine nuts like macadamia and a bit of cashew (not too much because they're high tyramine) and a few brazil nuts, but that's not the norm. The key is, trial and error. Note everything in your food diary and make your own list.

Don't try something and then go nuts eating it every day! Classic mistake we've all made. I can tolerate small bits of higher histamine stuff (tomato, nuts, spinach, avocado) but not every day. Rotate rotate rotate, all your foods, not just the low histamine ones!

I don't do much oil though - it's not healthy for the body. I prefer to get oil from the source (the nuts, seeds etc). I generally sauté foods in a tiny bit of oil, then I add a splash of water or home made stock if I need more moisture.

My pleasure :)

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I have had some trouble with sunflower (but it was sunflower butter mixed with sugar.......and I am pretty sure the sugar is what is making me sick and haven't really been brave enough to give seeds another go yet - confused as to why the sugar is such a bother) I would love to know if sunflower is okay...as well as nuts...because I used to love using almond and sunflower oil, but am concerned about histamine content. (Unfortunately there just isn't any reliable information to go on, it seems)

I may have to just try some of these things and see what my body thinks. I really appreciate your help!



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Hi there,

I talk about pumpkin seeds. I was told all seeds are fine - and that has been my experience. You can sub the pumpkin seeds for more sunflower seeds or add some almonds to the mix.

The fact is the list situation is terribly confusing, inconsistent and not particularly helpful, which is why I made my own list. I've kept a food diary since 2008 - having eliminated all the low nutrient high histamine foods (and those that are just dangerous to me like soya), I then began eliminating all foods that bothered me. Now I've realised it's not all about elimination and have begun adding tons of nutrition back. That has helped me far more than elimination.

It might be something you would want to look into. After all, no one really knows how foods will affect individuals. It comes down to so many things. You're better placed to know if it's safe to eat a food on a particular day.

Be well!

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I saw that you listed pumpkin as a low histamine source of omega 3, but everywhere I have read online says that pumpkin isn't allowed on a low histamine diet. Would you mind clarifying this for me (all the different info online has confused me more than once, sadly). Thank you!



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Great, thank you!

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I eat fresh salmon and tuna. When I compare very very fresh fish to processed foods, it's totally worth it. White fish is of course lower histamine, but not as high in omega 3s. But that's me. I forgo other unhealthy histamine foods so that I can include high nutrient higher histamine foods.

Low histamine omega 3 sources:

Seeds: flax, chia (unsure), sunflower, pumpkin (or oils)

You can find a comprehensive list using the nutrient search tool on nutrition data.com http://nutritiondata.self.com/tools/nutrient-search



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Interesting about Omega3 being of help. Of course the best source is salmon, which would be out from a histamine perspective.

Any good low histamine omega 3 suggestions?

Thanks,

Mike


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I think you'll get more responses if you re-phrase to:

In your experience does X or X bother you less.

Some might be worried about throwing their hat in the ring otherwise...

Milk doesn't agree with most of us. First off, it's cooked. It has been heated to kill bacteria which then means it has been sitting on a shelf accumulating more bacteria. Add in the fact that many of us can't process lactose, and the added bacteria caused by processing the butter...you get the picture.

A lot of people have been telling me they do ok with Indian ghee. You should be able to order on the net. It supposedly has less lactose and casein. I know that Indian food is the only meal I can really do in a restaurant. I always order the lentil dhal (made with ghee) and some onion bhajis (chickpea flour/onion/ghee).

I don't think huge amounts of coconut oil is very good for us overall. Can you not do olive oil at all? I wasn't able to and then suddenly I was ok with it when my body recovered. I use almond or argan oil for frying/desserts, coconut for desserts and balinese/malaysian/thai food, I can tolerate canola if needed (I don't do it because it's high in omega 6 fatty acids).

Bear in mind, histamine causes major inflammation in the body. A key to getting better has been my increasing the omega 3 fatty acids and reducing the 6s. I have studies somewhere on my old site showing that omega 3 fatty acids are key to histamine lowering diamine oxidase enzyme production, and also prostaglandin d2 (which potentiates the actions f histamine in the body) can be lowered with omega 3.

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What's a better (lower histamine) fat source:

Pastured Kerrygold Butter (salted) vs. Coconut oil?

Thanks,

Mike

 



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