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Hi Staci! 

Thanks so much for purchasing my book :) 

If you're eating so little already, I would hesitate to do a further detox. But, what you might like to try to do is incorporate some more nutrition in a way that's easy on your enzymes - ie juice and soup. 

I was a little overloaded these last few days so I decded to start off my days with a juice or smoothie.

I chose all the ingredients based on the fact that they're 

1. low histamine

2. anti-inflammatory

3. anti-histamine

4. easy on digestion (the oats might be too hard for you right now?)

Here's what I've been having:

breakfast juices and smoothies

kale, apple, carrot, broccoli juice

gluten free oat, almond, blueberry, banana smoothie

red kale, beetroot, apple, carrot juice

dinner soups:

Broccoli, chard, fennel, onion soup with basil, thyme and oregano (no stock, just one lime squeezed, a little olive oil and some salt)

Cauliflower, fennel, onion, tahini soup (as on my blog in the recipes section) with a little olive oil and lemon

Zucchini, asparagus, brocoli, same as above

My lunches are generally a large salad with steamed veggies. 

I only do this for a few days though otherwise I become reactive to these foods. That's always the risk you run with these diets. It's probably what's happening with you. Clinging to a few safety foods builds up the other biogenic amines in the body, as well as just giving the body a chance to build defence mechanisms against the "intruder" proteins. 

Are you having very severe reactions? Eventually I just made my peace with the fact that I am a reactive person and I always will be. To EVERYTHING. Once I understood that I had a much more relaxed approach and was able to see that most reactions were not serious, as long as I rotated, and that I would be ok, even though I was reacting. 

I then added meditation and chanting back to my life, as well as yoga. It sounds a little hippy (which I kind of am!) but I approach food with a positive attitude, secure in the knowledge that I am doing good for it. I may react a little, but now that I know my personal limits and tolerances, I am secure in the knowledge that as long as I eat all low histamine foods, I'm not going to hospital. And I haven't in years! 

Please let me know a bit more. I'm always more than happy to answer questions as well as listen :) And please remember, check with someone before attempting anything new and know you're own tolerance...

YY



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I just purchased the new book, Thank you!  All the information in one place is great!  You briefly mention a detox diet and I was wondering if you have an example of that anywhere.  I am in the eat "only 4 things stage" and have been for awhile which I know is not healthy but I have also been reacting to everything!  My brother is now facing the same issues and so he is coming to me since I have dealt with it for so long.  We live in Seattle so there are no doctors here that can test DAO.  Any suggestions would be so helpful.  Thank you again as you have always been so willing to help answer my questions!

 

Staci



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First off, I just friended you on FB and have always wondered what you looked like based on the information on your sites.  I have read your blogs for a long time now.  You are Beautiful! 

Second, thank you for your response, I really can't imagine how many people you help and spend your time helping.  I thank you again from the bottom of my heart!

Yes, I know I am reacting because I am not rotating my food properly.  I have had to take Benadryl lately just to eat dinner most days which has not happened in a long time.  I just got tested for SIBO which was positive.  I have been on SCD (Specific Carbohydrate Diet) for almost three years.  My body will not tolerate anything that is raw or that is not seeded and peeled.  I do not eat nuts or dairy either (no soy or gluten as SCD does not allow them and I react to them as well) I have pushed my body this past summer and fall with raw foods and I added oatmeal (SCD is grain free) and have slacked on my Epsom Salt baths.  I use to take them at least 4 times a week.  Reactions are GI, anxiety, heart palpitations, achy joints and legs, throat feels tight after eating , and extreme fatigue (where I am not sure how I will make it through the day with my three little guy), I have a itchy rash on the back of my head, wake up stuffed up each morning, and lately have been unable to wear my wedding rings because they make my finger itch, I don't sleep well and dream very vivid dreams(are you tired yet :) . I have had three huge "anaphylactic" type reactions in the past but not as of late thank heavens. I have gained 20 pounds in the last three months but before that when I went low histamine/gluten free and SCD I lost about 100 pounds. 

I do eat more than 4 things it just feels like that is all I eat. Right now I eat winter squash, fresh green beans, brussel sprouts, carrots, rutabaga, chicken and beef.  Everything is cooked, usually roasted with Safflower oil.  I also eat peeled and baked golden delicious apples and pears.  In the previous months leading up to now I have tried bananas, mango, coconut flour, honey, broccoli, cauliflower, beets, blueberry and lettuce.  I really have no idea what specific things I was reacting to because it feels like I react all the time. 

 

I wish there was a way to get my bucket lower and then go from there.  Should I just start adding in new things and see what happens but since I seem so close to the top of my bucket already I am so scared to do that since I might push myself over the edge. 

Are you still with me...I know, I have heard it over and over from every MD, ND, or nutritionist I have ever seen, yes you are a really hard case...good luck!  I understand you are not a doctor but I would love your opinion on anything that you see that is glaring.

Thank you again for your time and patience!

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That's so sweet thank you Staci! I didn't realise you had been reading my blogs for so long! Until recently I wasn't even sure that people actually were lol. It felt pretty lonely, like I was talking to empty space! 

Ok, no not bored, don't worr, I will keep talking/listening till you find some relief :) I keep saying the not a doctor thing because this can be a serious condition (as you know) and I worry about people! 

So, yes you are highly reactive now. I'm surprised you've had sibo for this long given the diet you're eating! 

For the sibo, were you ever given olive leaf extract? I didn't need it but I know a lot of people are prescribed it. I just recently bought some olive leaf tea at planet organic here in london. 

And now, regarding the sibo. I've been doing some research over the last year: 

Here's a few samples

Definitions of normal and abnormal results of breath tests are even more variable than for cultures. The lack of generally accepted definitions raises a situation where you can almost choose the test and definition that best suits your purpose. It is not uncommon to see the same authors change their definitions of a positive test in different papers.8,9,72 Only a few papers have described adequately their reasons for choosing a certain cut off point.23,24,25,104

Glucose is readily absorbed in the proximal small bowel, and in the absence of severe transit abnormalities it rarely reaches the colon,26,105 making it an attractive substrate to detect at least proximal SIBO. The glucose hydrogen breath test is considered positive if there is a clearly recognisable hydrogen peak, exceeding 10–20 ppm (fig 33).12,13,89 High fasting concentrations may be due to SIBO but this is a very unspecific finding which may also be due to slow intestinal transit leaving a residue of poorly absorbable carbohydrates remaining in the colon.16 Mostly, however, high fasting concentrations occur when the instruction to follow a low fibre diet before the test not has been followed.

Lactulose passes unabsorbed through the small bowel and into the colon. Therefore, apart from detecting SIBO, it can also be used as a measure of orocaecal transit.106 The original definition of a positive lactulose test (that is, indicating SIBO) was an easily detected early hydrogen peak (>20 ppm), due to small intestinal bacteria, occurring at least 15 minutes before the later prolonged peak, corresponding to the passage of the remaining lactulose into the colon (fig 44).14 However, in some of the more recent studies, other less restrictive definitions, such as a rise in H2 within 90 minutes, have been used,9,72,74 which should be compared with the fact that the mean orocaecal transit time assessed with lactulose breath testing in healthy controls is slightly above 90 minutes.106,107 Therefore, using this definition, 50% of healthy controls would be expected to suffer from SIBO!79

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1856094/

Hydrogen breath tests are simple and safe, providing us with an easy tool to unravel the pathophysiological alterations behind symptoms difficult to explain. However, these tests have a number of limitations. The importance of SIBO and bacteria in other parts of the gut for functional gastrointestinal symptoms remains to be determined, and breath tests used wisely can be important together with other techniques in future studies. Today, regular use of the lactulose breath test in clinical practice in the evaluation of symptoms in patients with suspected functional gastrointestinal disorders cannot be recommended. The relevance of maldigestion of specific carbohydrates, such as lactose and fructose, in functional gastrointestinal disorders is probably overestimated. However, in some patients with a large intake of products containing these sugars, a hydrogen breath test, followed by dietary restriction of the sugar in case of a positive test, may be advised. Hopefully, the occasional abuse of hydrogen breath tests seen today can be turned into proper clinical and scientific use in the future.



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PART 2 :)

In principle I don't think the SCD is a bad thing. It's basically a modified paleo. 

I do however worry that some nutrition is falling between the cracks. For a long time, till it became intuitive, I tracked my diet on www.fitday.com to check that I was receiving adequate nutrition from my diet. It calculates how much you're consuming of each nutrient. Might be a good idea to try it and see how you're doing. From there I made a list of the nutrients I was missing, then used http://nutritiondata.self.com/tools/nutrient-search to find the allowed low histamine foods that were highest in those nutrients. 

Armed with my list, I wrote out a food plan for 2 weeks. I didn't introduce too many foods at once, but added the ones I was severly lacking. 

I also began taking quercetin, as needed, for my worst reactions. I now also take holy basil, at times, and dabbled in a high potency rutin/lutelin/quercetin supplement called neuroprotek which was great for a few weeks but I then began reacting to it. That seems to be the case with most things. I can take them for a week or two and then they bother me. So now I take on an as needed basis and I rotate my supplements. 

I include legumes, though they do bother me at times (but what doesn't?) because they offer nutrition I choose not to/cannot get from supplements. I figure my body isn't able to process supplements any more easily than it can deal with the foods themselves and I absolutely do not believe in taking massive doses of vitamins...

Here's something I've been thinking about a lot lately:

Something that has really helped me is acceptance. I know that I will react to every food and everything put on my body. This fact is no longer a source of stress or fear to me. I have stopped obsessively considering why I am reacting to each and every thing, focusing instead on how each food I put into my body is helping me heal. I can't being to tell you how much easier this has made my life and how much happier I am.

 

I experience the reaction, I observe it. I do not question or fear. And then I let it go and it can't hurt me anymore. I have begun using the opposing effects of foods to my advantage - for example - melon makes me tired. Tomato makes me energetic. Foods (grains) that bloat my stomach direct the inflammation away from my ears/head, and give me some peace from those reactions. When I can no longer tolerate the bloating I eat the foods that cause the tinnitus. And so I find a balance. I don't do it consciously any more - it just happens. It's my zen approach to food...But....the caveat, I know I am not in danger. I have not had an anaphylactic episode in years...

------ok back to the practical -------
Have you considered trying to take down the inflammation in the body? I'm finding that helps a lot. I consider whether what I am putting in my body will help me do that. If the answer is no, I don't eat it. I find it best to determine what reaction I will have to foods by testing them about an hour after waking, then not eating for about 4 hours after. 
I don't eat most kinds of sugar, only once or twice a month I'll have some agave or coconut sugar. Honey does not agree with me in the slightest...
In the past I have a think about a few things and then sat down to write a plan for the next two weeks. I don't stress, I don't introduce anything too unknown. I just look at the list of foods I don't think will cause too bad a reaction, then use fitday to see how it stacks up nutritionally. Then I go slowly. If I worry about a reaction, I have a few small bites. I don't eat too much of any one ingredient (big mistake from my past - mono eating in large amounts). 
You can come back and let me know what your plan looks like :) I know it sounds like a lot of time and effort, but I wasted a lot of time lying in bed recovering from bad diet...
Hope this helps. I'm actually going to post some of my answer on the blog - it's the first time I've actually put all of this into writing :) Thank you for inspiring me to do so! 


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